Literature notes — simon-ionization-excess q2
Session 2026-08-27 (continued). Re-opened the HPS abs this pass to confirm v1 is still the only version before comparing a leading- coefficient claim against 1.1185. URLs actually opened this session. One line each: what the source STATES, then what it does NOT state.
- https://arxiv.org/abs/2504.18487 — re-opened 2026-08-27. STATES still only v1 (25 Apr 2025); abstract line . Does NOT list a v2.
Verdict (read from the papers, not abstracts)
No paper opened after Hundertmark–Pattakos–Schulz arXiv:2504.18487v1 (25 Apr 2025; still the only arXiv version) claims a fermionic leading coefficient below 1.1185. No paper proves or bounded for the many-body Schrödinger operator. No paper claims a unique for any . No later paper gives a sharper explicit remainder class than HPS printed , , and .
HPS v1 remains the published non-asymptotic record on the leading coefficient: for , with .
The only later arXiv paper on excess charge of atoms is Benguria–González-Brantes 2511.07582v1 (10 Nov 2025). It is statistics-independent / bosonic, leading coefficient , and does not beat 1.1185 for fermions. It is the replacement for 2207.08328v2, whose abs comment says that version has errors.
Direct answers
- Leading coefficient below 1.1185? No paper claims this.
- or bounded (Schrödinger)? No paper proves this. Lewin CR Physique (online 7 May 2025; manuscript accepted 31 Mar 2025, before HPS) still says even is unknown.
- Unique for ? No paper claims this. Lieb 1984 gives uniqueness only for hydrogen: .
- Better explicit remainder class after HPS v1? No published paper. 2511.07582 has remainder on a leading term (bosonic). Schulz thesis (30 Jul 2025) restates the HPS leading 1.1185 (and writes , weaker than the paper’s explicit ).
HPS 2504.18487 — only v1 exists
- https://arxiv.org/abs/2504.18487 — Abs of v1 only (submitted and updated 2025-04-25; comment “50 pages, 2 figures”). STATES with an explicit lower-order term; improves Lieb 1984 and Nam 2012. Does NOT list a v2, a journal reference, or .
- https://arxiv.org/html/2504.18487v1 — Full HTML of v1. STATES Theorem 2.2: for , . Prop. 2.4 (): . Prop. 2.5 (): with . Simplified for . Also writes as a coarser form. LT factor 1.456 of Frank–Hundertmark–Jex–Nam enters in the remainder (Section 6), not . Does NOT prove bounded excess; does NOT claim unique for ; does NOT claim a coefficient below 1.1185.
- https://doi.org/10.48550/arxiv.2504.18487 — Same v1 preprint landing. STATES cited-by 0 on that page. Does NOT list a later version.
- https://arxiv.org/pdf/2504.18487 — Same v1 PDF text as the HTML. STATES the same theorems. Does NOT add a v2.
- https://export.arxiv.org/api/query?id_list=2504.18487 — API returns only 2504.18487v1, updated 2025-04-25. Does NOT return v2 or a journal id.
Replay of printed constants (already in compute/q1/certs/hps_replay.json):
,
. Nam’s is
with , so .
Nam 1009.2367v3 — replayed
- https://arxiv.org/abs/1009.2367 — Latest is v3 (26 Nov 2011), “to appear in Commun. Math. Phys.” STATES , beats Lieb for ; in magnetic / pseudo-relativistic extensions. Does NOT claim .
- https://arxiv.org/abs/1009.2367v3 — Version page. STATES v1 13 Sep 2010, v2 22 Sep 2010, v3 26 Nov 2011. Does NOT change the 1.22 coefficient across the abs text of v3.
- https://arxiv.org/html/1009.2367v3 — Full HTML. STATES Theorem 1: if is an eigenvalue then either or ; “1.22 can be replaced by ”. Lemma 1 + Proposition 1: , , . Printed max at ; trial . Ionization conjecture or stated as open. Does NOT prove bounded excess; does NOT unique- for ; does NOT beat 1.1185 (this is 2011).
- https://arxiv.org/pdf/1009.2367 — Same v3 PDF text. STATES the same Theorem 1. Does NOT add later constants.
Replay (compute/q1/certs/nam_beta.json): and
hold; , which Nam
rounds to 1.22.
Nam surveys 1209.3642v2 and 2206.15393v1
- https://arxiv.org/abs/1209.3642 — Abs of v2 (7 Dec 2012). STATES a review of the ionization conjecture. Does NOT claim a new coefficient.
- https://arxiv.org/html/1209.3642v2 — Full HTML. STATES conjecture or ; Lieb settles hydrogen; FS/SSS best for large ; Theorem 2 restates Nam ; bosons ; Nam’s fermionic remainder uses LT (Pauli). Open: convexity, “binding of implies ”, bounded radii, bounded ionization energy. Does NOT prove ; does NOT unique for .
- https://ar5iv.labs.arxiv.org/html/1209.3642 — Same survey text as the official HTML. Does NOT add numbers.
- https://arxiv.org/abs/2206.15393 — Abs of v1 (30 Jun 2022), Lieb 90th-birthday chapter. STATES a review. Does NOT claim a new bound.
- https://arxiv.org/html/2206.15393v1 — Full HTML. STATES Zhislin binding for ; Theorem 4 Lieb for all , settles hydrogen; full short proof of Lieb (multiply by , drop kinetic by , triangle ). Theorem 5 restates Nam 1.22. Lenzmann–Lewin: no eigenvalue if . LSST ; FS/SSS . Bosons: , Benguria–Tubino Hartree . Conjecture 2 () still open. Does NOT mention HPS (2022); does NOT unique for .
Lieb 1984 replayed here from Nam’s write-up of the published argument (APS HTML was Cloudflare-blocked; see below).
Lieb, Phys. Rev. A 29 (1984) 3018–3028
- https://inspirehep.net/literature/14268 — INSPIRE record Lieb:1983ru. STATES abstract: ; molecule of atoms ; hydrogen , so not stable; statistics plays no role; static nuclei; also magnetic / relativistic kinetic energy. Does NOT give the body of the proof; does NOT claim unique for ; does NOT claim a coefficient below 2.
- https://inspirehep.net/api/literature/14268?format=json — Same metadata. STATES DOI 10.1103/PhysRevA.29.3018, pages 3018–3028, also reprinted in The Stability of Matter pp. 91–101. Does NOT attach a PDF.
- https://journals.aps.org/pra/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevA.29.3018 — Cloudflare bot-check this session. STATES nothing readable beyond the challenge page. Full APS HTML/PDF not obtained.
- https://web.math.princeton.edu/~lieb/publications.html — STATES the bibliographic line “Bound on the Maximum Negative Ionization of Atoms and Molecules, Phys. Rev. 29A, 3018–3028 (1984)” and the short PRL 52, 315–317 (1984). Does NOT host the PDF at that URL.
Replay of the atomic bound is the argument written out in 2206.15393v1 §2 (and 1209.3642v2, HPS §3): strict because the triangle inequality is strict a.e. Combined with Zhislin (actually binding for ), this forces at . For , Lieb only gives , not a unique .
Benguria–González-Brantes–Tubino 2207.08328 — v2 flagged; PDF gone
- https://arxiv.org/abs/2207.08328 — Latest is v2 (updated 3 Nov 2025). Abs comment: “This version is not definite and has errors.” Abs still STATES the 2022 claim: statistics- independent bounds, “best for bosons for all ” and “best for fermions with ”. Does NOT withdraw the abs numbers; the comment is the warning.
- https://arxiv.org/abs/2207.08328v1 — v1 (18 Jul 2022). STATES the same abs as v2, without the errors comment.
- https://arxiv.org/abs/2207.08328v2 — v2 landing. STATES the errors comment. Official HTML 404; official PDF 404.
- https://export.arxiv.org/api/query?id_list=2207.08328 — API confirms v2 updated 2025-11-03T19:40:21Z, comment as above.
- https://export.arxiv.org/pdf/2207.08328v2 — HTTP 404. v2 body is not on arXiv.
- https://export.arxiv.org/pdf/2207.08328v1 — HTTP 200, 17 pages. STATES v1 title/abs (“best … … iron”). Stream extract of this session did not recover the theorem line; numbers below are from ar5iv HTML of v1/v2.
- https://ar5iv.labs.arxiv.org/html/2207.08328 — HTML of the claimed theorem. STATES Theorem 2.1 (bosonic atoms): with for ; small- lines : ; : ; : ; : ; : . Remarks claim this beats Lieb for all statistics and beats Nam for fermions . Does NOT prove ; does NOT unique for (the line is , same integer ceiling as Lieb). Not a record: authors later marked v2 as having errors.
- https://ar5iv.labs.arxiv.org/html/2207.08328v1 and https://ar5iv.labs.arxiv.org/html/2207.08328v2 — Texts compared this session: identical. So ar5iv v2 is not a corrected theorem; it is the same body as v1 (v2 PDF missing).
What survives numerically from 2207.08328v2? Nothing that can be cited as a published record. The abs comment plus the missing v2 PDF plus the 2511.07582 acknowledgment (Hundertmark and Schulz “pointing out errors in a previous version”) mean the 1.5211 / 0.29363 / small- / “best for ” claims are withdrawn. They also never beat 1.1185 as a leading fermionic coefficient.
Replacement: Benguria–González-Brantes 2511.07582v1 (after HPS)
- https://arxiv.org/abs/2511.07582 — v1 only, 10 Nov 2025. STATES an upper bound independent of statistics, improves Lieb for . Does NOT mention 1.1185; does NOT claim to beat Nam or HPS for fermions at large .
- https://arxiv.org/html/2511.07582v1 — Full HTML. STATES Theorem 1.1 (title says bosonic atoms; proof uses symmetry of , so the argument is written as statistics- independent): for . Uses Nam’s , Coulomb uncertainty, Lieb–Oxford , a numerical GNS constant 0.2812, and . Acknowledgments: Hundertmark and Schulz “pointing out errors in a previous version of this manuscript” (the 2207 line). Does NOT claim a leading coefficient below 1.1185 (1.4811 is worse than Nam’s 1.22 and HPS’s 1.1185 for fermions); does NOT prove ; does NOT unique for ; does NOT give a remainder class better than HPS’s printed on the 1.1185 term.
Corso–Ried 2403.04347v2 — LT variational, not ionization
- https://arxiv.org/abs/2403.04347 — Latest v2 (21 Dec 2024), comment “Corrected a few typos.” STATES a variational problem for CLR/LT constants. Does NOT mention atoms, , or excess charge.
- https://arxiv.org/abs/2403.04347v2 — Same. Does NOT change an ionization coefficient.
- https://arxiv.org/html/2403.04347v2 — Full HTML. STATES , a marginal improvement on Frank–Hundertmark–Jex–Nam 1.45579; induction in dimension extends to all . Does NOT mention ionization, , or . HPS’s leading is a classical max of ; the 1.456 LT factor sits only in HPS (remainder). Even if one swapped 1.456 for 1.44655, that would not move the printed leading 1.1185. This paper is also before HPS (Dec 2024 vs Apr 2025).
Lewin, CR Physique 26 (2025) 369–380
- https://comptes-rendus.academie-sciences.fr/physique/item/10.5802/crphys.249.pdf — Full PDF opened. STATES Open Problem 1: prove for a universal (ideally 1 or 2); “no proof of (5) has been provided yet, even with a crazy constant like ”. Then-best explicit: Lieb ; for atoms Nam ; for this is “”; LSST ; FS/SSS ; Solovej HF with huge . Manuscript received 6 Nov 2024, revised 28 Mar 2025, accepted 31 Mar 2025, online 7 May 2025. Does NOT cite HPS (HPS is 25 Apr 2025, after acceptance). Does NOT prove bounded excess; does NOT unique for .
Other 2025–2026 papers opened (not a fermionic-leading improvement)
- https://arxiv.org/abs/2502.15444 and https://arxiv.org/html/2502.15444v1 — Benguria–Siedentop, 21 Feb 2025 (before HPS). STATES excess-charge bounds for generalized TFW density functionals, not the many-body Schrödinger operator. For , uniformly bounded in ; Hartree-type . Does NOT change the Schrödinger leading coefficient; does NOT apply to Simon 2000 #9 as a new bound.
- https://doi.org/10.5445/ir/1000183607 — Schulz KIT thesis landing (published 30 Jul 2025; defense 29 Apr 2025). STATES in the abstract and Hartree . This is the HPS result (same leading 1.1185; the is weaker notation than the paper’s explicit ). Does NOT claim a coefficient below 1.1185; does NOT prove .
Citation / “anything later than HPS v1?” searches
Opened, not just searched:
- https://api.semanticscholar.org/graph/v1/paper/ARXIV:2504.18487?fields=title,year,citationCount,citations.externalIds,citations.title,citations.year,citations.authors
— STATES
citationCount: 0,citations: []. Does NOT list a later improvement. - https://api.openalex.org/works?filter=doi:10.48550/arXiv.2504.18487
— STATES OpenAlex W4416381655,
cited_by_count: 0, preprint only, no journal. Does NOT list citing works. - https://inspirehep.net/api/literature?q=arxiv:2504.18487 — STATES zero hits (HPS is not in INSPIRE yet). Does NOT give citations.
- https://inspirehep.net/api/literature?q=refersto:arxiv:2504.18487 — Returned unrelated records (query not a usable citation graph for this preprint). Does NOT identify a citing paper on excess charge.
- https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=13552851381728662902 — Google bot-block this session. STATES nothing usable.
- arXiv API
all:2504.18487— only 2504.18487v1 itself. - arXiv API
ti:"excess charge" AND abs:atoms— 11 hits; the only ones dated after 25 Apr 2025 are 2504.18487v1 and 2511.07582v1 (bosonic, 1.4811). 2207.08328v2 is a comment update of a 2022 paper, not a new theorem. - arXiv API
all:"excess charge" AND all:fermionin 2025-04-01..2026-08-28 — only 2504.18487v1. - arXiv API
all:"N_c" AND all:"Z^{1/3}"in that window — only 2504.18487v1. - arXiv API
all:"1.1185" AND all:ionization— 0 hits (LaTeX splitting; the HTML of HPS itself has the number). - arXiv API
au:Hundertmarkafter 2025-04-25 — no second ionization / excess-charge paper (2602.04685 is ultracontractivity, unrelated). - arXiv API
au:Benguria2022–2026 — 2207.08328v2 (errors), 2502.15444 (TFW), 2511.07582 (bosonic 1.4811), 2201.13421 (Hartree). None beat 1.1185 for fermions.
Failed / blocked this session (logged): APS PRA 29, 3018 full
text (Cloudflare); 2207.08328v2 PDF and official HTML (404);
Google Scholar citing page (bot-block); OpenAlex
/works/https://arxiv.org/abs/2504.18487 (404; the doi filter
worked instead).
Nam EMS newsletter (opened as a lead check)
- https://ems.press/content/serial-article-files/12081?nt=1 — Nam “The Ionization Problem”. STATES then-best explicit ; Lieb proof sketch; FS/SSS “no further improvement in the past three decades” (pre-HPS). Does NOT cite 1.1185; does NOT prove bounded excess.
Record line (what to beat)
Published fermionic Schrödinger, non-asymptotic, leading term:
Hundertmark–Pattakos–Schulz, arXiv:2504.18487v1, 25 Apr 2025. Sharper printed form: Prop. 2.5 with and remainder . For , Prop. 2.4 can be the better HPS line; Lieb still wins at small .
Nothing later than that v1, among papers opened this session, improves the leading 1.1185, proves bounded, or gives a better published remainder class.