s>3 and the Newton–Toeplitz average — residue
Hundertmark–Pattakos–Schulz, arXiv:2504.18487v1. Opened this
session: the abs and the
HTML, Theorem 2.2, Remark 2.3,
Lemma 4.3, Proposition 4.5, Lemma 5.9, and the proof of Theorem 2.2
in §7. Replay: python3 toeplitz_probe.py (writes
toeplitz_probe.json). No face enumeration, no verify_beta3.c.
Status: residue. No path to b(4) in Theorem 2.2. No global
γ > fmin on every radial probability. The compact-aspect number
0.901924 (leading 1.1087 on aspect ≤ 4) is not used and is
not unrestricted.
A. s>3: the two-shell sign, and nothing else feeds b(4)
q2 already had the closed quadratic. Independently:
Q_s(α, β; t, ℓ) = α² t^{s−1} + β² + αβ (t^{s+ℓ} + t^ℓ).
At s=4, ℓ=1, t=1/8, α=16, β=−1 this is the dyadic
rational
16² · (1/8)³ + 1 − 16 · ((1/8)⁵ + 1/8)
= 256/512 + 1 − 16/32768 − 2
= −1/2 − 1/2048
= −1025/2048 < 0.
The same opposite, inner-heavy dipole is negative at s=7/2
(1/√2 − 1 − 1/(65536√2) < 0) and at s=3.1. At s=3 the
discriminant is the identity
(t⁴ + t)² − 4 t² = t² (t³ − 1)(t³ + 3) ≤ 0 on (0, 1],
so the dipole form stays nonnegative. One-shell, same-sign, and
quadrupole (ℓ=2, Hardy threshold 5) stay positive on (3, 4].
Interval enclosures sit in compute/q2/certs/s_gt_3.json; this
folder only replays the algebra.
That kills Lemma 4.3 for every s>3: there exist measures
orthogonal to radial functions with I_s(ν) < 0, so
I_s(ρ) need not dominate I_s(ρ̄).
Does any other HPS path justify b(4) ≈ 1.083 in Theorem 2.2?
No. The printed chain is short, and the missing piece is only
β_4 ≥ b(4)^{-1}.
Theorem 2.2 is N_c < b(s) Z + c(s) Z^{1/3} for s ∈ (1, 3].
The §7 proof solves the Lemma 5.9 comparison (5.50) for N and
substitutes the Proposition 4.5 floor β_s ≥ b(s)^{-1}. Lemma 5.9
already runs for 2 ≤ s ≤ 4. It compares α_{N,s} to β_s. It
does not produce a lower bound on β_s. On (3, 4] it has
nothing to feed into unless someone else supplies
β_s ≥ b(s)^{-1}.
Proposition 4.5 without Lemma 4.3 still gives
β_s^{rad} ≥ b(s)^{-1} for every s>1, by Newton and the
elementary minimum of (1+t^s)/(1+t^{s−1}). Theorem 2.2 consumes
the full β_s (infimum over all probabilities in D_s), not the
radial infimum. Lemma 5.9 is written with that full β_s.
Substituting β_4^{rad} would be a different lemma.
The other candidates in the paper, or next to it, do not close the gap:
- Remark 2.3 conjectures that Theorem 2.2 holds for all
s ≥ 1with the sameb(s). It is a conjecture. Remark 4.6 says explicitly that they do not know whether the Proposition 4.5 floor extends pasts=3. - Remark 4.4: there is no positive-definiteness argument for
I_swhens>0. The two-shell examples show more: on{ν ⊥ radial}the formI_sis not positive, and not conditionally positive, for any testeds>3. The Coulomb argument of Remark 4.4 (I_0(ρ) = I_0(ρ̄) + I_0(ν) ≥ I_0(ρ̄)) has no analogue ats=4. - IMS plus Hardy is the only proof of Lemma 4.3 in the paper.
The improved constant is
c_H = 9/4, soc_H − s²/4 ≥ 0only fors ≤ 3. Hardy onVitself (quotient near9/2) is the wrong object; q2 already recorded that. A quadrupole restriction would allows ≤ 5, but a generalν ⊥ radialhas anℓ=1piece, and the many-body density is not so restricted. - The pointwise minorant
|x−y| ≤ 2 max(|x|,|y|)givesβ_4 ≥ (1/2) b(4)^{-1} ≈ 0.4617, hence a leading coefficient at most2.17, worse than Lieb. - A small dipole modulation of a radial probability has
I_4(ρ) = I_4(ρ̄) + ε² I_4(ν) < I_4(ρ̄)wheneverI_4(ν)<0. That shows the radial infimum is not the full infimum. It does not proveβ_4 < b(4)^{-1}, and it does not proveβ_4 ≥ b(4)^{-1}either.
No other comparison in HPS (Newton for non-radial measures,
multipole remainder, Lemma 5.5, the kinetic remainder in §6)
replaces β_4 ≥ b(4)^{-1}. A new pair estimate that never
passes through β_4 would be a different paper. None is
certified here. b(4) ≈ 1.0830249 is smaller than 1.1185
and cannot be used in Theorem 2.2.
B. After Newton, Q is an average of f — no cheaper floor
For a radial probability, Newton gives
g(r,u) = (r³ + u³) / (2 max(r,u)) = f(t) (r² + u²) / 2,
t = min(r,u) / max(r,u), f(t) = (1 + t³) / (1 + t²).
So Q = I/D is a weighted average of f. In particular
Q ≥ fmin = 1/b(3) ≈ 0.89410745697, which is Proposition 4.5
at s=3. Figure 2 already says this is not sharp: the HPS
power-law trial sits near 0.9207. A global γ > fmin would
move the leading coefficient below b(3). Three cheap attempts
do not produce one.
Two-atom exact minimum
Two radii, ratio t ∈ (0,1], D-mass w on the inner atom.
The quotient is
Q(w,t) = [w² + (1−w)² t² + w(1−w)(1+t³)] / [w + (1−w)t²].
For fixed t the unique interior critical point is w = t/(1+t),
and
Q2(t) = (1 + 2t + t³) / (1 + 2t + t²).
Q2'(t) = 0 on (0,1) at the positive root of t² + 3t − 2 = 0,
t* = (−3 + √17) / 2 ≈ 0.5615528128,
Q2* = (17√17 − 55) / 16 ≈ 0.9432997272,
1/Q2* = (55 + 17√17) / 118 ≈ 1.0601084376.
That coefficient is below 1.1185. It is a lower bound only for
2-atomic measures. q2's 3-atomic search already has
I/D ≈ 0.931 < Q2*. The two-atom floor is not global.
At the HPS ratio t0 one has the identity t0³ = 2 − 3 t0, so
Q2(t0) = (3 − t0) / (1 + t0)² ≈ 0.94366,
slightly above Q2*. The pairs that saturate f = fmin are not
the two-atom minimizer.
Infinite t0-chain
Equal m-mass on r_k = t0^{-k}, k = 0, …, n−1. With
u = t0^{-2} the energy is a finite geometric sum,
D = (1/n) (u^n − 1)/(u − 1),
I = (1/n²) Σ_d f(t0^{|d|}) · ((1 + u^d)/2) · (u^{n−|d|} − 1)/(u − 1).
The n=3 line collapses to
Q3 = (1/3) [ 1 + fmin (1+u)²/(1+u+u²) + f(t0²) (1+u²)/(1+u+u²) ]
≈ 0.9379263180.
That is the minimum of the family: Q1 = 1, Q2 ≈ 0.94705,
Q3 ≈ 0.93793, then Q_n increases (Q24 ≈ 0.98823). Equal
D-mass is the inversion of equal m-mass on a geometric set and
gives the same Q_n.
The n → ∞ limit is 1, not fmin. Write Q = 1 − (1/n) Δ / Σ u^k
with Δ = Σ_{i,j} (1 − f_{|i−j|}) (u^i + u^j)/2. Both Δ and
Σ u^k are O(u^n), so the deficit is O(1/n). A long
t0-chain does not put almost all pair-weight at t0: either
n is small and the t=1 self-pairs stay large, or n is large
and the 1/n masses kill the deficit.
Q3 ≈ 0.9379 is a trial, hence an upper bound on β_3^{rad}.
It sits above the HPS power-law 0.9207. It is not a lower
bound, and it does not beat 1.1185 as a global coefficient.
1D convolution on log-radius
Put x = log r. Then
I = ∬ f(e^{−|x−y|}) (e^{2x} + e^{2y})/2 ρ(dx) ρ(dy),
D = ∫ e^{2x} ρ(dx),
for a probability ρ on the line. The translation-invariant
kernel K(h) = f(e^{−|h|}) satisfies K ≥ fmin, with equality
only at |h| = −log t0. Any average of K is therefore
≥ fmin. That is again Proposition 4.5. There is no Bochner
gap: K(h) − γ is not a positive-definite bump for any
γ > fmin, because K(∞) = 1 and K attains fmin at two
finite points.
Dropping positivity makes it worse. The truncated Toeplitz
symbol of K on a 16-point t0-step grid, evaluated at
θ = π, is ≈ 0.11187 < fmin. Signed log-densities are not a
path to a higher floor.
Positive trials on at most 16 log-nodes (the cap here):
- two bumps at distance
−log t0: unweighted energy(1 + fmin)/2 ≈ 0.94705; - three equal bumps at
0, h0, 2h0:≈ 0.93688; - log-Gaussians,
n = 16: bestQ ≈ 0.92360atσ = 0.4, still above the power-law0.9207; - log-uniform
m(i.e.m(dr) ∝ dr/r) on aspect2through12: best in the scan≈ 0.92267at aspect3.5.
None of these is a lower bound. None of them raises the global
floor above fmin. A number that does not beat 1.1185
globally is not a dent of the printed leading coefficient.
The leftover handle is unchanged: a proof that a minimizer has
bounded aspect, or any other argument that gives Q ≥ γ > fmin
for every radial probability. The compact-class certificate
Q ≥ 0.901924 on aspect ≤ 4 is not that argument.
What is proved vs still open
Proved here: the q2 two-shell sign at s=4 is the exact
rational −1025/2048; Lemma 4.3 does not extend; Lemma 5.9,
Newton-on-radial, pointwise |x−y| ≤ 2 max, and signed
convolution do not justify feeding b(4) into Theorem 2.2;
the two-atom min is (17√17 − 55)/16 and is not global; a
t0-chain has closed form Q_n → 1 with minimum Q3 ≈ 0.9379
and is a trial; the log-radius kernel recovers fmin as a
global floor and nothing strictly above it.
Not proved: β_s ≥ b(s)^{-1} for any s>3; β_s < b(s)^{-1};
a global γ > fmin for β_3^{rad}. Not a dent of 1.1185.
Remark 2.3 remains a conjecture. The compact-class 1.1087 is
not unrestricted.